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All industries have an internal culture and politics that define systems and ways to conduct business.  Most of us don’t care about the internal politics unless it affects us directly.  When I go to the doctor, I want the doctor paying attention to me and  providing service to me.  I’m selfish that way if I’m paying you for something.  I don’t care if they hate Blue Cross’ payment system.   I don’t care if they don’t like how the state handles their licensing.  I don’t care because I have other things to do with my time like dream about marrying George Clooney.  Keep the internal bickering to yourself.  Seriously, it interferes with my day dreaming.

Edina Realty, in a bold move, pulled all their listings from syndicators in 2011.  Tired of dealing with Zillow, Trulia and Realtor.com they said, forget it, and walked away from those real estate sites.  Recently a San Diego brokerage followed suit and did a video about their reasoning.  I started to write a comment on YouTube, but realized that what I had to say was an entire post.

The reasoning behind pulling their listings was that it was a disservice to buyers and sellers due to the inaccuracy of the data displayed, the fact that leads are generated and sold away from the listing agent, and copyright concerns.  I just wanted to say to brokerages that do this that consumers don’t care about our politics.  The concerns mentioned in the video are our internal politics to hash out and deal with without bringing consumers into it.  I’ve yet to see a doctor do a YouTube video about why they won’t accept a certain insurance carrier, or a attorney explain the inner workings of the BAR on video.  The reason they don’t is because they know that people (ie consumers that pay money for our services) are completely uninterested in our internal dysfunction.  The real estate industry functions like a bunch of addicts except we are addicted to our MLS data.  It’s the crack of our industry.

So let’s look at the arguments presented in the video.  Trulia and Zillow are slow to update feeds and have erroneous data on them. This is true.  I find they both take anywhere from 1-5 days to update the feed and changes to the MLS data sent to them.  The cool thing about both of those sites is that we agents can go in and manually correct something.  Wow…imagine that.  Managing the data and double checking it to make sure it is accurate.  Isn’t that part of our job?  Oh, wait…that means I might have to put one more task on my to do list after a price change or something.    That’s right…we want easy.    Really, it isn’t the Zillows and Trulias that are the data error problem, it is the other sites like HotPads, etc, that don’t update as often. I have been contacted about homes that sold and closed months prior but those sites don’t update their feeds.   The good news for consumers about those sites is that they are so small you probably aren’t aware of them.

Consumers should care about getting accurate data from these sites because you don’t want to waste your time either. But ssshh, you should expect that from MLS data too.  I had a listing that closed in December that wasn’t marked under contract by the listing agent for about three weeks, and it wasn’t marked as sold until about 2 weeks after close of escrow.  If we as an industry are holding our MLS data as the pinnacle of accurate data, we are a hypocritical industry indeed.   Let’s get over ourselves on this one shall we?  Our MLS data isn’t the end all be all of accuracy either.

The second main concern, but the true agenda,  is the selling of leads away from the listing agent.   What Trulia, Zillow, and Realtor.com all do is sell zip codes.  The way this works is that an agent can buy into a zipcode and if a consumer requests information from that zipcode it gets sent to one of the paying agents.  Listing agents don’t like this because they are being bypassed by people that pay.  Listing agents often have a buyer agents that work as part of their team and these leads (that means you the consumer, btw) are getting sent away from their team to another agent.  This is money away from the brokerage and potentially to a competitor.  You can see why we real estate agents aren’t fond of this system.   This is a blatant power grab as the more complete listings you have, the more consumers you can draw to your site.  Real estate brokerages are in it for profit so this is fine, but let’s not pretend that this isn’t what it is about.

In fairness to the biggie syndicators,  consumers do indeed have contact information for the listing agent but it is often waaaaaaay at the bottom of the page or in the fine print.  They want you to click on one of the buyer agents since they are paying for your information.   Consumers that read can find what they are looking for.

Real estate agents can always say no to buying zipcodes, and if agents feel so pressured to cave in and pay for a service they don’t believe in, why in the world would I want a person like that negotiating on my behalf for a hundred thousand dollar transaction.  Seriously?  Pressure?  If agents feel like their arms are twisted then they lack a backbone. I wouldn’t choose to hire an agent without one.  I mean if an agent can’t handle the Zillow rep that calls and says “hey do you want a zipcode to increase your business” how in the world are they going to handle the collections rep they have to deal with on a short sale.  Is this really the message we want to send out to consumers?  Apparently, the brokerages that have left syndication feel they have to protect agents from themselves.  That isn’t saying a whole lot about our confidence in our agents ability to handle pressure well.

The final concern in the argument to pull information was copyright.  I laughed, truly, when this was mentioned. Yes, legally the information on the MLS is copyrighted.  Do consumers care?  No.  Let me reiterate that.  Consumers don’t care.  As someone that has initiated a copyright infringement suit against another party, talking about MLS data in terms of copyright is the biggest mistake I have ever heard.   Here’s the thing…when I write a blog post, I am doing that for profit for myself (yeah, big surprise right).  When someone writes a novel, movie, music it is for profit for themselves.  When we enter information in the MLS, take pictures, video etc, we are paid to provide a marketing service to someone else.  We are functioning in a work for hire mode.  This is a totally different thing.  Sellers pay us for our marketing expertise.   We are generating that information for them, on their behalf, as part of our service.  It is in our seller’s best interest to have that accurate marketing be in as many places as possible.    To claim copyright issues on this is just lame.   I can’t imagine very many consumers sitting at home thinking, yes…MLS data is just like writing a novel.  This has to be one of the worst PR moves I have seen.   It sounds arrogant in my opinion.     There is legal and then there is reality.  They don’t coverge well here.

The problem with being vocal about business decisions like this, is that it is too transparent.  Yes, there is such a thing.  Really I don’t want to see pictures of my neighbor, in the shower, online.  Too. Much. Information.  We are standing here naked in front of consumers and it ain’t pretty.  Sort of like watching a 500 pound man walking on the beach in a speedo.  Some things, you just don’t want to know.

No other industry complains more publicly about itself than the real estate industry.   Consumers want one thing:  good service and advice from professionals.  The rest? Consumers don’t give a rat’s ass about it.   Now…if you’ll excuse me, George awaits.

If you want to watch the video that triggered this post you can watch it here.  I’d love your opinion on it.

 

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The home truth about Salem Foreclosures

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Useless data.  I live for it.  What can I say?  When running the normal foreclosure numbers for you all, I decided since I have all these numbers just sitting there, I needed to do something with it.  So here you go, Melina’s fun facts about foreclosures in Salem Oregon.  Okay, I know what you are saying.  If I think this is fun, I really  need to consider poking a sharp stick in my eye for a rip roaring time, but I’ll pass on that.  Thanks for the offer though. ;-D

  • The average mortgage on a home served with a foreclosure notice in Salem Oregon in 2011 was $182,593.
  • The dollar amount of mortgages that went into foreclosure in 2011, just here in Salem, was a staggering $160,316,665.  Yes…$160 million for those of you that have comma woes.
  • The top 5 neighborhoods served with notices of default were Jan Ree with 31, Englewood with 14, Highland with 13, Wilark Park West with 13, and Creekside Estates with 10.

Phew…now I feel better having unloaded that information from my brain.  The good news is that you can’t get that useless information anywhere else so remember it because there will be a quiz later.

2011 Salem Oregon Foreclosures to date

Now, you may look at this lovely graph and see the downward trend that every newspaper is writing about. It’s true foreclosures are technically down 39.7% from 2010 in Salem.  I should be doing the hokey pokey over this but let’s face it, I’d look really idiotic doing that dance since I’m older than 7.5.  I’m more of a chicken dance kind of gal anyway, especially if I have a Gligamesh or Seven Brides brew in my hand…

But I digress, as usual.

We ended the year with 922 foreclosure notices filed on Salem homes.  Some of you may remember my insanely gorgeous charts from earlier in the year where I extrapolated the data for those pesky MERS properties.  Still have those homes just  hanging out there with nowhere to go. Now, Wells Fargo has most definitely forged ahead with judicial foreclosures and Chase appears to be going that route for MERS here locally.   All banks are still foreclosing on non-MERS properties after taking a brief reprieve in the third quarter.  As such, our foreclosure notices were down significantly this year.    It is likely that foreclosures would have declined this year anyway, but not by this much.  This is an artificial drop.  I disagree with the hype in the press that the market is improving. It’s just more of the same…vexation.

I can hear my Scottsdale real estate nemesis right now.  Step away from the thesaurus, Tomson.

 

A special thanks to Fidelity National Title for supplying me with loads of data for me to crunch and nurturing my inner data geek.  I feel better already. Okay, the Torii Mor wine was probably a bigger factor in feeling better, but I’m NOT doing the Macarena.  Not happening people.

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The home truth in Keizer in 2011

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Home prices have continued to decline in Keizer, just like Salem.  The question is whether or not I was accurate in my predictions from last year.  I have an ego to maintain, you know.  Last year I predicted a 5% decline in home prices and a flat line in home sales.  So how did I fare?

Average home prices in Keizer Oregon for 2011

 

Well like Salem I underestimated the decline a bit.  The median shifted downward by 7.7, so I missed it by 2.7%.    The average home price declined by 9.2% which isn’t surprising as fewer high end homes are selling to keep the average up.  With smaller data figures like this, the median is a better way to look at the data.   So off by a bit, but pretty close.

 

Number of homes sold in Keizer in 2011

How did I do on home sales?  Oh…so close.  Check out this lovely graph.  2 more sales in 2011 over 2010.  It doesn’t get much better than that for flat lining.   Keizer home sales have been stalled at these levels for three years, and quite frankly it will probably be like this again in 2012.

So what do all my lovely charts mean to you?  The good news is that banks are still having trouble foreclosing on MERS involved properties so the inventory is at 9.7 months which is decent for these economic times.  This means not great conditions for sellers but better. Multiple offers are happening on occasion, not the norm by any means, but they are happening.  Less competition is good for our regular sellers.

This stagnation for buyers means that sellers are still feeling the pain a bit and many have accepted current market conditions.  Buyers are having better choices in the regular real estate market without having to delve into the distressed property market which means good things for buyer paid closing costs and needed repairs.

So my predictions for next year?.  Honestly, the exact same thing. I think the market will continue to decline another 5% of so and home sales will remain flat lined.  There just aren’t enough buyers that qualify for financing to have any kind of big pop in home buying.

Phew…my ego is still intact.   I know you were all deeply worried about that part.

 

Data in these charts was crunched from data collected from the WVMLS for single family non-acreage properties.

 

 

 

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